Neu Motor Mounts???

[Darin Jordan]

Perhaps this is best addressed to Steve himself...

I started working on my O-mono project this evening and noticed that the Neu Motor I have won't fit a standard motor mount... According to the documentation, the motor has a 22mm spread, while all my standard mounts are 25.4mm (1")...

Are there mounts available for these motors, or do we have to make our own mods??


Thanks,

[AndyKunz]

They might match 480-size mounts? Steve ought to know.

Andy

[Patrick M]

Originally posted by Darin Jordan
Are there mounts available for these motors, or do we have to make our own mods??I use a small round jewelers file.... ;)

[Darin Jordan]

Originally posted by Patrick M
I use a small round jewelers file.... ;)


Yah... I had my files and mounts out in the living room last night! :D (Hey... I had a towel down under it all... ;) )

On the Fuller's type mounts (angle with slot from the top), I'm going to widen the entire slot by about .062", then use these screws and washers from Lundsford:

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/l/lnsc1900.jpg

On the CEN and Offshore Electrics mounts, I'll just drill the additional hole pattern, so they should fit all three...

I was told last night that the 22mm pattern is being phased out and that future runs of the cans will have the 25.4mm/1" pattern...

Variety is the spice of life, eh??? ;)

[sneu]

Originally posted by Darin Jordan
Perhaps this is best addressed to Steve himself...

I started working on my O-mono project this evening and noticed that the Neu Motor I have won't fit a standard motor mount... According to the documentation, the motor has a 22mm spread, while all my standard mounts are 25.4mm (1")...

Are there mounts available for these motors, or do we have to make our own mods??


Thanks,

It was error by the machine shop that I ended up with 22mm for the first several hundred cases for the 15 series smooth case motors. The design called for te more standard 25mm spacing. When the existing stock is run out it will then go to 25mm. I did not want to waste 1200 motor cases of different sizes:( As you ahve already found a file solves the problem.

Steve

[Darin Jordan]

Originally posted by sneu
I did not want to waste 1200 motor cases of different sizes:(

I don't blame you there! I have it handled... so the build continues!!

[Kmot]

Originally posted by sneu
It was error by the machine shop that I ended up with 22mm for the first several hundred cases for the 15 series smooth case motors. The design called for te more standard 25mm spacing. When the existing stock is run out it will then go to 25mm. I did not want to waste 1200 motor cases of different sizes:( As you ahve already found a file solves the problem.

Steve

Sounds like a great machine shop! They screwed up the dimensions? What, no inspectors at this place? And why on earth did you accept them? If it were me I would have told them to do it over and do it right. :rolleyes:

[Darin Jordan]

Originally posted by Kmot
Sounds like a great machine shop! They screwed up the dimensions? What, no inspectors at this place? And why on earth did you accept them? If it were me I would have told them to do it over and do it right. :rolleyes:


Guys... It's really not that big of a deal... It's .062" removed from the inside edge of the typical Fuller's motor mount... or a .062" oblonging of the current mounting holes...

Surely nothing worth causing a big stink over... Especially when someone has a LOT of money invested in machining these things, and all we have is $4.95 in a piece of bent aluminum...

The motors are AWESOME... Certainly worth 5-minutes with a good file... ;)

[AndyKunz]

Well, you could have them rotate them 90 degrees and re-bore to the correct centers.

Andy

[Kmot]

Darin, you are right. It's not that big a deal to us modelers to modify something. If I was a business though, and sent a blueprint to a machine shop and they screwed up you can be sure I would send them right back. :D

[sneu]

Originally posted by Kmot
Darin, you are right. It's not that big a deal to us modelers to modify something. If I was a business though, and sent a blueprint to a machine shop and they screwed up you can be sure I would send them right back. :D

If you have wait 90 more days for them to remake the parts then you understand why I did not ask them to start over.

Steve

[Kmot]

Okay, I can certainly understand the pressure that put you under.

If you retained that machine shop, I hope they gave you the next order gratis or something. :p

[Darin Jordan]

Guys,

I'm just VERY happy to have these motors in my position... They are worth every thousanth of an inch I have to file off my mounts!

You'll see... They'll be a must-have item (already are)... unless, of course, Hacker or someone steps up to the plate and attempts to provide this kind of performance as an alternative...

;)

[Steven Vaccaro]

Originally posted by sneu
If you have wait 90 more days for them to remake the parts then you understand why I did not ask them to start over.

Steve 90 days for 1200 cans? Where they coming from China?

JUST KIDDING!

Keep up the good work Steve. I see a black motor in my future. I just have to save a few more pennies.

[Patrick M]

Originally posted by AndyKunz
Well, you could have them rotate them 90 degrees and re-bore to the correct centers.

Andy The motors are already drilled at 22mm centers on both axes....
My experience has been that the larger diameter of these motors causes more issues than the mounting screw spacing. I've had to make spacers to install between the motor and mount so that the drive end of the can will clear the floor of the boat. This may not be an issue if you've allowed room for a can cooler in your installation.
It's worth the extra effort!... ;)

[AndyKunz]

45 degrees then.

Andy

[Patrick M]

Originally posted by AndyKunz
45 degrees then.

Andy You'll be drilling air.... ;)

[AndyKunz]

Well, I guess he's stuck with a non-standard part. Maybe Steve will provide upgrades to standard endbells for the guys who got stuck with the early version.

Andy

[Andrewg]

these mount holes.........

An easy fix

Get a compass draw a circle on a piece of paper the same diam as the mountign holes and run two lines, at right angles, thru the centre of the circle

tape or paste the drawing to your motor mount centre punch and drill or mark for filing

takes 5 minutes

or should we talk to Doug Campbell about making some nice mounts

[eddieh]

I dunno redrilling motors, retro parts? I agree the motor mount is the easier fix, oblonging the holes is a good fix, it is worth it even for a standard motor as you can more precisely line up the shafts, I agree that if the machinist screwed up he should make reparations, but that is steve's business to take up with the machinist, simply put the fix is better then the wait.

andrew
Doug Campbelll does make a very nice motor mount , however the laser cut mount is an integral part of the hydro kit, and not everyone likes wood mounts, Doug robichaud makes a very sexy motor mount, in aluminum, but these are stamped and the extra machining for a new stamp can be expensive....

but I think this is all pretty extreme, man what happened to the builder spirit, a few years back you had to make your own stuff any way and adapt what ya found, making a new motor mount is very easy, but a very simple mod to a pre made mount as darin said a few minutes with a file is the easy fix... IMHO.. The robichaud mount I got from steveV at offshore has both hole spacings for a 700 and an 05, and it also comes unbent as well as low clearance and maximum clearance, so a few minutes with a file, and bent at the location that gives you enough clearance seems to be a super easy fix.

[Darin Jordan]

Originally posted by Eddieh
... man what happened to the builder spirit, a few years back you had to make your own stuff any way and adapt what ya found, making a new motor mount is very easy...

Eddie,

I don't mind fabricating stuff myself, but unfortunately for me, I'm as anal-retentive as they come, so I like to have everything look "perfect", and I also like to be able to interchange things between boats... That's why I like to find a standard mount or whatever that can be used all all my boats... Easier to make emergency repairs that way!

As I get more $$$ invested in nice tools (metal-brakes, etc...), I'll be fabbing more and more of my own stuff... Until then, for some of this stuff I'm at the mercy of the vendors! ;)

[eddieh]

Darin, I even polish stuff nobody sees, LOL... I think you should really check out the roubichaud mount, this comes unbent, so you will be much better off with the piece of flat metal to bend after you do your modifications, just a thought, I have made my mounts for years but dougs are sweet!!

[D. Newland]

I even polish stuff nobody sees, LOL...

Don't kid yourself, Eddie! :D

[eddieh]

Originally posted by D. Newland
Don't kid yourself, Eddie! :D


Dave, that's just plain lowdown....LOL... good one:D :D

[newbubble]

quote;

I even polish stuff nobody sees.....

You Americans say things different to us Aussies, down 'ere we dont call that sort of thing 'polishing'. tut.tut.
Bob