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John Brown
03-14-2008, 04:21 PM
It's Ready!! Our new prop is finished and in production!

Precision CNC machined from solid barstock.

This prop is 50mm in diameter and the average pitch is 3.25" The trailing edge is 4.0"

The prop should work well on Sport 45's and 45 tunnels. It may also work well on some 45 monos.
It will be a great 45 rigger prop if you run at high altitude or use low nitro.

The first production run is made from 7075-T6. The strength is equal to a standard cast BeCu alloy prop.

Future production will also be avalible in alloy steel for those who want the thinnest, sharpest blades possible.

Every blade is identical in pitch and thickness throughout every section.

This is the first in a series that is sure to break many records and win many races.

In an effort to see these props tested on as many different boats as possible we are offering
a special introductry price of only $30.
This price will be good through midnight Sunday March 16th. There will be no quantity limitations.
They are in stock and ready to ship.

This first prop has no name designation. I've yet to decide on which method to use.

This prop is also avalible in opposite Right hand rotation for the electic boaters.

Please call 386-208-1036 or e-mail cmdi3@windstream.net to get these awesome props at this one time great price.

Good boating,
Andy

Raydee
03-14-2008, 04:26 PM
Very nice! Will you be making smaller sizes as well?

John Brown
03-14-2008, 04:26 PM
I'll try to get a picture up as so as I have a minute to figure out how to resize it.

John Brown
03-14-2008, 04:27 PM
Andy is working on a 45mm prop now with many more to come

Rc1racing
03-14-2008, 05:10 PM
Is the right hand rotation extra?
I'll send you a pm also.

jockobadger
03-14-2008, 05:30 PM
How long until the 45mm is ready? Can we sign up in advance? thanks

madmikepags
03-14-2008, 05:40 PM
John I'll take 5 of the Left hand and 2 right hand, are they ready to run S,B,P?? or do they need to be finished??

Bill-SOCAL
03-14-2008, 06:37 PM
I sent my order to this email address:

cmdi3@windstream.net

$37.00 shipped to my door.

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John Brown
03-14-2008, 07:03 PM
Andy just finished a 47mm (dia.) x 73mm (pitch) prop. The pitch is 2.9" which is slightly bigger then an x447 and an x646.

He will have the 45mm prop done by Mon.

All props are race ready.

Left and Right rotation are the exactly same even the price.

John Brown
03-14-2008, 07:04 PM
Bill thanks for posting the pictures

Don Wollard
03-14-2008, 07:13 PM
John - thx for posting on Rum Runner.

Gents - Andy's new props are a work of art not to mention an advanced design. Being a prop fan .... I can say that not much impresses me. These new props indeed do. Can't wait till the entire line up is out.

Hey John - I will post some of my pic if you like. Thanks again for the shop tour this week. Doug (Twaits) and I really appreciated you taking so much time with us.

It was a real honor to be the 'first' racers to hold the new prop. I'll be back real soon.

John Brown
03-14-2008, 07:49 PM
Don, Even thou I'm not much of an electric guy, It's great to be here because RC Boat are RC Boats and there's nothing better than racing fast boats on matter what the power plant is.

It was a pleasure having you and Doug stop in. And you may post any pic that you would like.

Thanks for hosting a site like this for all the electric guys.

Bill-SOCAL
03-14-2008, 07:55 PM
Andy just finished a 47mm (dia.) x 73mm (pitch) prop. The pitch is 2.9" which is slightly bigger then an x447 and an x646.

He will have the 45mm prop done by Mon.


When will they be ready to ship?? I've already got the 50mm coming, but definitely want both a 45 and a 47. I'll send an order via email.

Dan Chase
03-15-2008, 01:00 AM
That's fantastic news!!! And counter rotating too!!! :D

eddieh
03-15-2008, 09:46 AM
man what are the classic thunder and e-rcu guys gonna be doin with a whole new selection of right hand propos!!! whew...

John Brown
03-15-2008, 03:48 PM
Thanks for the orders guys!

Some of you have been asking about Paypal.

We do accept paypal . The account is cmdi3@windstream.com

We aslo do Visa/Mastercard & AMX

Good boating!

txboatpilot
03-16-2008, 06:26 PM
Paypal sent for 3 left rotation props,, 50mm 47mm and 45mm....

Thanks, Rich

eddieh
03-16-2008, 07:09 PM
john currently I am running an x455 detongued (2 blade) on my 1/8th scale hydro ( 10s) looking for a little more lift and probably some more pitch, anything come to mind? my bud runs the 646/3 with pretty good success, but since I am running a 2 blade I was seeking some pro advice in size range...

John Brown
03-16-2008, 08:02 PM
Paypal sent for 3 left rotation props,, 50mm 47mm and 45mm....

Thanks, Rich


Thanks for the Order Rich!

John Brown
03-16-2008, 08:13 PM
john currently I am running an x455 detongued (2 blade) on my 1/8th scale hydro ( 10s) looking for a little more lift and probably some more pitch, anything come to mind? my bud runs the 646/3 with pretty good success, but since I am running a 2 blade I was seeking some pro advice in size range...


I'm working on stretching out the pitch on the current 5083 3 blade. I'll probably take it out to about 92mm. This should have some more lift than the detongued X455. With the third blade the 50mm prop should push the 1/8 scale well.

Good boating,
Andy Brown

eddieh
03-16-2008, 10:48 PM
I'm working on stretching out the pitch on the current 5083 3 blade. I'll probably take it out to about 92mm. This should have some more lift than the detongued X455. With the third blade the 50mm prop should push the 1/8 scale well.

Good boating,
Andy Brown


john let me know when I can order one or two...

John Brown
03-17-2008, 01:15 AM
Added another prop today. The 4569/3 Dia.=45mm Pitch=69mm T.E. is at 3.4"

So now we have three props, 5082, 4773 and 4569, both left and right. I'll do a 2 blade version of these soon.



Thanks to everyone who has ordered the new props.

More to come!

lasse_001
03-17-2008, 03:49 AM
Paypal sent for 45mm left and right+47mm left and right. Looking forward to try them on my balsa-cat! Thanks.

hkusp45
03-17-2008, 08:14 AM
Paypal sent for a 3 blade 45 mm.

Thanks they look sweet!!

holgionline
03-20-2008, 05:47 PM
hi andy,

excellent props......when will the alloy steel props be available and do you plan to make bigger sizes fo the future ?

kind regards from our side of the atlantic, holgi !!!

John Brown
03-21-2008, 12:01 AM
We expect to come out with about two new props each week.

Next we will be working on some 35 -38mm props. Then 40-44mm props.
The steel props will follow after we have had some good testing time with the
aluminum. The 7075-T6 Alloy is almost 3 times stronger than normal cast aluminum props so they will hold up for most applications. They will also be a good first chioce before buying a steel prop. Because the steel is very tough to machine the steel props will be much more expensive. However they will be very cost effective because the strength and toughness of the Steel we're working with is much higher than any other material used for r/c boat props.

52mm and larger props props will come a little later.

icelert
03-22-2008, 11:58 AM
John,

Could you tell us when any 2 bladed props will be produced, in which sizes first, and where in your production schedule? Many inquiring minds (1/10 scale) in the Pacific Northwest would like to know.
Thanks for bringing us a much needed high quality product!

Bryan

BACKEMF
03-22-2008, 02:50 PM
I would like a 47mm and 45mm where to paypal??

Raydee
03-22-2008, 02:57 PM
I am planning on a M645 for my sport 40 build....what 3 blade size would you recommend with your new props?

How long before the 4569 two blade is available?

BACKEMF
03-22-2008, 02:59 PM
Are these the work of Andy Brown in conjunction with Capt'n Chuck (Charles Horton)? Last time I talked to Capt'n Chuck he was diving into Catia software to do something like this. I'm Jazzed right out!!!

Jef
03-22-2008, 04:18 PM
Hello, have also seen these new props tooled on the CNC machine.
Does somebody know if these props will be standard detongued? Or is this an option like -in the past - the sharpening/balancing and cupping? If yes, what are the prices?? I am thinking on Octura X4XX range equivalents used for electro cats .

Greeting from Belgium.

Happy boating.

Jef.

Don Wollard
03-22-2008, 08:36 PM
Hello, have also seen these new props tooled on the CNC machine.
Does somebody know if these props will be standard detongued? Or is this an option like -in the past - the sharpening/balancing and cupping? If yes, what are the prices?? I am thinking on Octura X4XX range equivalents used for electro cats .

Greeting from Belgium.

Happy boating.

Jef.

I have seen these props and they are excellent. No balancing or cupping required. Plus and play. Andy has done an excellent job with this new line. Yes..these props would work on your Catt. I would suggest you drop one diamter size from your X4 Octura because of the 3rd blade.

John Brown
03-24-2008, 09:28 AM
We've got a new prop ready. It's a 3857 4 blade. Yep, 4 blades!
I'll post a pic later. Dia. is 38mm and average pitch is 2.25" with the T.E. at 2.6" With four blades this prop will hook up well without needing excessive power robbing cup.

This prop should work well on sport hydros, vees and Cats too.

We will run a special on this new prop until midnight Wed. March 26. $30.

Good boating,
John

BACKEMF
03-24-2008, 10:28 AM
Paypal sent for 3 props.

45mm, 47mm, 38mm

John Brown
03-24-2008, 11:24 AM
I am planning on a M645 for my sport 40 build....what 3 blade size would you recommend with your new props?

How long before the 4569 two blade is available?

Raydee, the 4569 or 4773 would be a good choice.

2 blade versions of the 45-50mm props should be ready by the end of the week.

Paypal is cmdi3@windstream.net

Contact the same e-mail for information

johnnyoverkill
03-26-2008, 11:48 PM
We've got a new prop ready. It's a 3857 4 blade. Yep, 4 blades!
I'll post a pic later. Dia. is 38mm and average pitch is 2.25" with the T.E. at 2.6" With four blades this prop will hook up well without needing excessive power robbing cup.

This prop should work well on sport hydros, vees and Cats too.

We will run a special on this new prop until midnight Wed. March 26. $30.

Good boating,
John

John,

Check your account, I just PayPal'ed for a 3857 and a new 40mm when available. Ship when it's convenient for you.

Thanks,
John

John Brown
03-28-2008, 10:45 AM
I made a couple of more props.
A 3657 4 blade and a 3861 4 blade.

I think the 3857 will be a good place to start on your Sport Tunnel unless you are running low nitro, then I'd say the 3657.
It has plenty of blade area for a 36mm prop. And yes. you can get any one of them for $30.
You can do the paypal, or call with a CC or mail payment. Which ever you prefer.

John Brown
03-28-2008, 10:50 AM
Andy just told me about two new props he made last night.

The first prop is a 3874 4 blade. With a 1.9 pitch/dia.ratio and 15 degrees of rake it may have some interesting results for a .21 rigger.
The pitch is about like a 1450 with 3.2" cup. The diameter is small but with 4 blades there is plenty of blade area to push a .21 rigger or fast electric rigger.

Also made a 3457 4 blade. I designed it for the .15/.18 RTR hydro. This one has a 3/16" bore. We may try it on our stock ProBoat hydro this weekend. If it looks good I'll make it, or whatever is most suitable for that boat, with an1/8" bore.

John Brown
03-28-2008, 11:02 AM
Looking forward to hearing how these props runs for you. How they work on your boat compared to what already works best for you.

That will give me a base to work from and then I can add or reduce lift, change pitch and other details until we get them running just the way you need them.
My goal is to have many variations so we can use them directly off the machine and not have to cut or cup them.

I'm planning to designate them by Diameter and Pitch in millimeters.
The 50mm prop would be a 5083. Dia. = 50mm Pitch=83mm.
There will also be designation for rake and progression to help indicate the lift and accelleration characteristics of the prop.
It will probably be a letter suffix such as 5083B.
It's easy enough to find the Pitch/Diameter ratio by dividing the dia. into the pitch. In this case it becomes 1.64/1
The plan is to have this same basic 50mm prop in a range of pitches, such as 76mm, 79mm, 82mm, 85mm and so on.

The more feedback I get from everyone the quicker I can develope the best props for all the different applications.

These first props are a base and may work great on some set-ups and probably will not work at all on others.

Please be sure to let me know how the prop reacts even if it doesn't work for your hull/power. All feedback is needed.

More later!

THE WOLF IV
04-03-2008, 06:37 PM
I Ran All Three Props I Purchased, 45,47,50/3 And All Cavitated Badly? It Runs Great W/ A 450/2 S/B Octura,and Perfect WITH A 447/3... I Really Want To See What These Props Can Do.....what Exactly Causes Extream Cavitation? MY SET UP CONSISTS OF 10S @ 911 KV W/ THE LENHER2250/13 SO-38,262 RPM -10% OR SO @ THE PROP, APP.5-7LB 32'' MONO.

Raydee
04-03-2008, 06:42 PM
Did you try to lower the strut a little and see if it helped?

THE WOLF IV
04-03-2008, 07:06 PM
Yep, I Lowered It , Tried More Pos. Angle, - Angle,rought It Farther Up Ect... I Tried It All In Slow Adjustments. I Put The 450/2 Ack On And It Ripped Out Of The Hole!

BulletMaster
04-04-2008, 02:17 AM
JB,

Do you have a listing with specs and pics of the new prop range yet?

Chris Harris
04-04-2008, 05:09 AM
Wolf,
Are you saying your hull empty weighs 5-7lbs. or the RTR weight? I don't think that it's even possible with your listed equipment for your boat to weigh that little RTR.
These props seem to have a smaller blade area than the X props do, which will make it harder for them to push the same weight at the same rpm as the X prop. Also the blade progression looks much different. X props have real low pitch at the leading edge that progressively gets higher toward the trailing edge. The pitch measurement that Octura and other brands give is the average pitch between the entry and exit. This is why they accelerate well. Maybe John can comment here but I'm thinking that with the current design of these props you may need to go bigger than the X prop that you have been using. OR give the prop more RPM. It's probably easier just to get a bigger prop though.


Chris

John Brown
04-05-2008, 09:56 PM
Wolf,

Thanks for the report. As Chris mentioned, these props do not have as much progression as the X props and will not have the same "out of the hole" accelleration. They also have more lift and will require a more rearward CG location. With the CG back and given time for accelleration they will be faster than the X props. They should work excellent for SAW mono with the correct CG. They are proving to work well on the hydros.
This coming week we will be working on some props that will act more like the X-props. Send us an e-mail and I'll let you know.

Thanks again,
Andy Brown

P.S. I will soon post a list of the current props and what applications they are working well on.
Also I will post a list of the "soon to be released" props.

THE WOLF IV
04-05-2008, 11:08 PM
hmm, ok thanx.....

Jay Boyd
04-11-2008, 09:04 PM
Wow, nice props guys! You are always moving forward with development.

5-axis rocks! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXWMDN5amzE&feature=related

Imagine, it's been 18+ years ago since I ran that E-Mongoose over 50mph! I still have that boat.

robby76
04-15-2008, 06:48 PM
Wolf,


This coming week we will be working on some props that will act more like the X-props. Send us an e-mail and I'll let you know.

Thanks again,
Andy Brown

P.S. I will soon post a list of the current props and what applications they are working well on.
Also I will post a list of the "soon to be released" props.


any new developments in the prop department?

BACKEMF
04-15-2008, 08:13 PM
I'm still waiting for mine. Three weeks and counting. My fault I guess, I went for the cheaper shipping :(

Axel
04-16-2008, 01:01 AM
I'm still waiting for mine. Three weeks and counting. My fault I guess, I went for the cheaper shipping :(

Not only you, but the way to overseas is long(Germany). I only hope they arrive before May 1. -there is a event with more than 70 participants
and I would like to test them before.

Axel

Tappy
04-16-2008, 02:44 AM
I got my tracking notification today, so I should have mine in 10 days or so :)

According to this thread - http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?showtopic=25440&st=120 (post 133) they're going to offer three lift levels on with the range once they get into full swing. Most of the early props will be the highest lift, there will be low lift and medium lift designs added. Sounds like a lot to choose from!

johnnyoverkill
04-16-2008, 06:45 AM
3 weeks here too. I ordered mine on 3/26. I guess Andy is overwhelmed with the influx of orders...

John

Ntm
04-16-2008, 12:41 PM
I was informed that they had run out of material, or something along those lines. They had my money a month ago. No props in my hand so far.

Regards,
Nathan

BACKEMF
04-16-2008, 02:05 PM
3 weeks here too. I ordered mine on 3/26. I guess Andy is overwhelmed with the influx of orders...

John


This happens but, a heads up would be nice. I'm not worried.

Axel
04-16-2008, 02:39 PM
This happens but, a heads up would be nice. I'm not worried.
Me either - but this waiting costs alot of nervs

Axel

Don Wollard
04-16-2008, 03:10 PM
Me either - but this waiting costs alot of nervs

Axel

Gents. This is a new cutting edge technology. If you have a question - call the Browns and see where your order is. I might add - these props are literally made one at a time. AND ... they just started doing this.

If you can't wait - cancell your order and get something else. If you can wait - you'll be delighted. These props are literally works of art.

BACKEMF
04-16-2008, 03:25 PM
I don't mind waiting Don.

Do you think it would be hard to remove some of the lift these early ones have?


I could set one up on my Taig and with the compound rest I could machine any angle of back cut to the trailing edge.

What do you think?

Of course I'll try them out first but some have said these early ones have too much lift for FE???

Just chatting...

Don Wollard
04-16-2008, 05:22 PM
I don't mind waiting Don.

Do you think it would be hard to remove some of the lift these early ones have?


I could set one up on my Taig and with the compound rest I could machine any angle of back cut to the trailing edge.

What do you think?

Of course I'll try them out first but some have said these early ones have too much lift for FE???

Just chatting...

Give me a week or so. I'll start experimenting with mine this coming weekend and see whats up. Most of the 3 blades are only 1.5 pitch ratio with reduced rake. What are you comparing to in terms of pervious prop's you are using?

BACKEMF
04-16-2008, 06:55 PM
Well, a 447/3, 646/3. P-mono with a Neu 1521 1.5D (1860) for 1/6mile course.

The 4 blade well??? I was hoping to use it on a sport hydro for N2 (37000rpm) or maybe my big cat @32,000rpm. Better the cat, too much for a Neu 1509 (4500KV)...?

sORRY in a rush...

No biggy, I'll play when they get here and he has more coming in future.

Don Wollard
04-16-2008, 07:49 PM
I'll check for ya. I expect to see Andy and John on Friday pm.

John Brown
04-16-2008, 09:58 PM
Sorry that many of you had to wait. I have finally caugth up on most of the backorders and they have been shipping the last couple of days and the last ones will ship tomorrow (Thursday).

I have been working on some new props too....with less lift for monos. The first props are working best on hydros and cats.
I'll post a list of all the props soon and also post what they seem to be working best on.
I've pretty much got the complete numbering system worked out. It will be very specfic to the design and geometry of the prop so that we can have a good explaination of the prop specifications.
This will help with further developement and give us the possibilities of making props that will meet the specific needs of each boat.
No longer will prop tuning be the dark art of cupping pliers, but a precise mathematical explaination.

More to come!

Andy Brown

Don Wollard
04-16-2008, 10:02 PM
No longer will prop tuning be the dark art of cupping pliers, but a precise mathematical explaination.Andy Brown

Go Andy! U da man.

johnnyoverkill
04-16-2008, 11:13 PM
Considering where the props are coming from, and the guru doing the designing and machining, I would wait until next season just to receive them if I had to. I'm sure all of us would agree with this. Patience always starts with communication. If you're worried, call or email them, they always answer.

That said guys, like Don pointed out, these are cutting edge, newly designed props and Andy and John have offered them to us with a paltry cost. I owe them a thank you and I apologize if my earlier addition to this thread read poorly.

John

robby76
04-18-2008, 09:41 PM
all i can say is THANKS for introducing a new wave of props to the rc boat eco system. i too can wait for my order whenever that may be the case. i have seen the CNC machine work, my son has operates one occasionally so i respect this machining process.

lasse_001
04-22-2008, 01:38 PM
Got my PROPS today! Best looking props i ever seen, sharp, shiny, smooth and well-balanced. Hope i can make a good set-up for them.
THANKS ANDY and CMDI!

Jef
04-22-2008, 04:39 PM
Don't understand that some people here compains here that they must wait for some days or a few weeks on the new ordered stuff.
I have placed a grouped order (several hunderd of $) in November last year and I was happy to receive a first parcial shipment last month.
Hope to receive the remaining props (also new tooled CNC props) within a reasonable timeframe and before the summer.

I know , we are on the other site of the ocean. Could this be a reason why it takes so long? Are surprised that clients in the States can have there props within a short period. Do the follow another procedure .
Please advice.

Regards from a small country Belgium in Europe.

Jef.

robby76
04-29-2008, 07:51 PM
_waiting__

lonewolf
04-29-2008, 08:03 PM
I havent actually seen their process but im sure it takes several hours to machine each prop. So unless they have many machines pumping out these props I can fully understand the wait time... my guess would be 2 maybe 3 props per 8 hr shift. Yes I do understand and work with cnc equipment. the cutters used are very small and can only make very small cuts each pass
They deserve credit and not greif, Im sure these machines can make just as much if not more money makeing other parts.
Also if these cnc machines were bought just to make props and all the profit from the props went into paying off the machines it will take many many props before they are paid off ....
Just a note from a guy who works with cnc ....
Thanks guys for your hard work hopefully someday I will have a few in my propbox..... Dave

BACKEMF
04-29-2008, 08:14 PM
I havent actually seen their process but im sure it takes several hours to machine each prop. So unless they have many machines pumping out these props I can fully understand the wait time... my guess would be 2 maybe 3 props per 8 hr shift. Yes I do understand and work with cnc equipment. the cutters used are very small and can only make very small cuts each pass
They deserve credit and not greif, Im sure these machines can make just as much if not more money makeing other parts.
Also if these cnc machines were bought just to make props and all the profit from the props went into paying off the machines it will take many many props before they are paid off ....
Just a note from a guy who works with cnc ....
Thanks guys for your hard work hopefully someday I will have a few in my propbox..... Dave


Ditto, I to know what CNC operations are involved, as is the training to draw a prop in AutoCAD or a specialized ($$$$$) software specifically for prop design.

Mine were outstanding, just not what I can use so I sent them back for a refund. I could have sold them here for whatver but, I thought that unfair to them and the next guy in line.

Jef
05-07-2008, 09:52 AM
Andy Brown, may I ask you to clean your message box. It seems that she is full. Can't sent a note to you.

Thanks and regrards.

Jef

Raydee
06-04-2008, 05:54 PM
Any feeback on these props yet? I just got one in the mail today and boy is it thin. I am kinda afraid it is going to bend a blade.

johnnyoverkill
06-12-2008, 10:45 PM
The first of my props ordered back on 03.27 arrived today. The prop is nothing short of a work of art, and well worth the wait. If this starter size (3857L/4) works half as well as it looks I'll be more than just pleased!

If you haven't ordered, you guys need to! I will post results as soon as I can finish the build that they were bought for.

m4a1usr
06-13-2008, 03:39 PM
The first of my props ordered back on 03.27 arrived today.

If you haven't ordered, you guys need to!

I'm going to have to wait and hear some bonofide comparison results long before I pay and wait 3 months. Maybe the Euro / Asia guys dont have alot of choices but here in the USA we have many. I have my own share of AB props in my prop box so I trust the quality of CMDI. But when you have the ability to make what you need, waiting is not a choice.


John

Raydee
06-13-2008, 03:56 PM
Johnny do you have a set of calipers? If so can you measure the prop hub ID for me. I received a 3857/4 and the inside hub diameter is oversize. I am just wondering if this is normal or not for these props. I sent a PM to Andy but I imagine he is very busy.

What hull are you planning to use yours on? I used mine on my Whiplash Sport 21 hull and like Andy said it cavitated for about 30 feet and then took off nice. I think the prop has a bit too much lift for my hull though because it makes the boat hop in the turns. I am def looking forward to testing some more of these props, they are awesome looking.

dave ives
06-13-2008, 06:22 PM
My 3857/4 hub diameter is 8.2mm.

dave ives
06-13-2008, 06:23 PM
My 3857/4 hub diameter is 8.2mm.

johnnyoverkill
06-13-2008, 10:45 PM
Ray, the hub is octagonal and 8.2mm like Dave's. It is EXACTLY the same size as the 10-32 crimp nut I use from Marine Specialties. I thought that it looked large in the package but it is fluted and I can only think that AB intended it that way. I will add that it is paper thin and ultra light. You can add razor sharp to that too.

The boat that it is intended for is the 32" China cat on the bench. I bought Larry's Hacker 7XL and Mike Paganelli's 21EGSRA for motor and hardware. Thanks to you both! The CF gets installed tomorrow! This is a pond basher so I'll be playing around with the set up until I can catch Rich's China cat. Tom you are out of the pic with your Jolly until I pass the 50 mark with it!

John, (m1a4) I agree with you in a sense but, I don't have the skills to make my own and I do have quite an assortment already. I was looking for something very different to play with and this fits the bill. By the way, it IS a work of art. Who knows? It may end up on my Key West, spinning on the hardware that I got from you!

John

BACKEMF
06-13-2008, 11:13 PM
Even though they are works of art, I sent mine back for credit. In future he intends to make less lift props than what he hasnow even in a "C" series.

Highly pitched and lots of lift.

Looking forward to future developments, soon I hope.


Soory, I forgot to ask. Do cats like my Maritimo need that kind of lift?

If so I shoulda kept the 4 blader...

johnnyoverkill
06-13-2008, 11:25 PM
I hope to test this cat out soon Ray. I'll let you know if the lift and pitch are too much, or not.

If I didn't trust AB I wouldn't have waited. Keep this in mind though... in the beginning John had asked for our input so Andy could test out his work. This is new for all of us so truthfully, I'll run the heck out of each one one everything I have. I'm sure the research will pay off for all of us in the end. There's majic in this and we know Andy has majic in his shop!

Hell, what's another $30 at this point??? LOL!

John

johnnyoverkill
06-13-2008, 11:34 PM
Ray D,

I guess I'll pay better attention next time... ID, OD, what the heck... OD @ 8.2mm, ID is an easy fit 3/16. No effort to install it but, no play either. If yours has play you had better give them a call.

John

Raydee
06-13-2008, 11:42 PM
Mine measures exactly .195 on the calipers, a little loose compared to all my Octura props.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/Raydee32/Stuff/38574.jpg

John Brown
07-09-2008, 08:35 PM
Hello Ray,

We have just finished the 3859C 3 blade. It has much less lift and much more bite than the 3857A/4. It should work great on your Whip.
We'll have one heading your way this week.

We made some 47mm and 50mm C series props and they are working great on Monos, Cats and Hydros.

We have several new props in the 44mm and under range. I will post a list here soon.

We have recently been working on the smaller props. If anyone is missing anything from a backorder, you should receive it soon.

Andy
P.S. Yes Ray, I made a few props with a 5mm bore, looks like you managed to get one of those.

BACKEMF
07-09-2008, 09:29 PM
Hello Ray,

We have just finished the 3859C 3 blade. It has much less lift and much more bite than the 3857A/4. It should work great on your Whip.
We'll have one heading your way this week.

We made some 47mm and 50mm C series props and they are working great on Monos, Cats and Hydros.

We have several new props in the 44mm and under range. I will post a list here soon.

We have recently been working on the smaller props. If anyone is missing anything from a backorder, you should receive it soon.

Andy
P.S. Yes Ray, I made a few props with a 5mm bore, looks like you managed to get one of those.


Excellent, thank you so much. I've been carving away at BeCo lately to get my boats to run well.

I'll be looking forward to a shipment soon as I see that list please.

The 3859C/3blade sounds good for my Whiplash and or my E2 Sport hydro!

Thanks for posting!

Raydee
07-10-2008, 08:38 AM
Thanks a Ton Andy, I am looking forward to the new prop.

John Brown
07-11-2008, 10:59 AM
New props! :) 38mm and under are $37.95

BACKEMF
07-11-2008, 11:13 AM
What does S & T stand for again?

I have $90 credit still from an order I returned way at the beginning.

I would like some of these, like the last 3. They do seem to have alot of blade area, from the picture.

MR truckpull
07-11-2008, 02:11 PM
Andy

Do you have any props 40mm , 42mm , in the "C" lift?

Could you also provide us with a list of all your "C" lift props?

Larry

BACKEMF
07-11-2008, 02:27 PM
Better PM him Larry.

John Brown
07-12-2008, 12:44 AM
Ray,

We just added the S,T and Q designations. These give a basic mounts of bite out of the hole or slippage before complete hook up.
The S props will slip the most before hook up. The T props will hook up quickly on most hulls and the Q props will provide almost instantaneous hook up from a dead stop. These are just generalizations and will vary a little from prop to prop.
The S props have the potential for the highest speed compared to a Q prop that loads the motor the same.

We'll have some of the new props heading your way this week.

Thanks,
Andy

ace028
07-13-2008, 08:09 PM
Are you going to make any in 1/8 shaft size?

John Brown
07-13-2008, 08:38 PM
Are you going to make any in 1/8 shaft size?

Yes, The 34mm and 36 mm props will be availible in 1/8" and 4mm Drive dog.

ace028
07-13-2008, 11:40 PM
When are they going to be available and how much?

ace028
07-15-2008, 01:13 AM
I'm looking for something that would compare to a x632 prop in 2 blade, and 3 blade, whatever would be best suited for a small light weight rigger.

62 bugzilla
07-15-2008, 03:01 AM
I would be interested in the same prop for my renegade rigger. Let me know and I will order. Thanx Shawn

michigan maniac
07-21-2008, 06:22 PM
Andy just finished a 47mm (dia.) x 73mm (pitch) prop. The pitch is 2.9" which is slightly bigger then an x447 and an x646.

He will have the 45mm prop done by Mon.

All props are race ready.

Left and Right rotation are the exactly same even the price.

I would like a set of these, how do I find them on the site to order or do I send an email for a quote? I take it these are 2 bladers? I would like them asap so If anyone knows how to navigate their site please advise. Thanks

johnnyoverkill
07-21-2008, 10:06 PM
Mike,

Just email them here: cmdi3@windstream.net

They'll always email you right back.

John

graill
07-23-2008, 06:43 PM
Hey john, your inbox is full.


ready for the props we discussed, if your still swamped let me know, thanks.

Old Sloppy
11-16-2009, 09:40 PM
I know this is an old thread, has anyone heard from Andy lately?
I have tried telephone, but I get no answer.

Harry

Raydee
11-16-2009, 09:48 PM
Harry, I got a ABC 1614/3 from him the other day. When I need a prop I usually get a hold of him on Inter waters when I need anything.

Randy Naylor
12-04-2009, 03:36 PM
I heard the CNC Machine was returned to the bank after his brother left the company.