turnigy marine (hobbywing) esc, opinions

[ypat70]

I am now shopping for a new esc for my narrow nose rigger, and was looking at the new marine esc's from hobbycity. There is a 120a version that is pretty well priced. also a seaking 180a, I believe that looks promising. They both claim to be waterproofed...
I have used their turnigy Plush 100a, before it was discontinued and it is amazing..can take a beating for sure.
any thoughts on these escs from boaters who have used them...data would be great!

Thanks.

[Flying Scotsman]

It has just been released. take the plunge and tell us more.

Douggie

[RPC1]

I just picked one up. For 69.95 you can't beat it. I will test it on my Whiplash 20 running a Medusa 3670-1600 on 5s lipo hopefully in a week.

[Flying Scotsman]

That was not the Esc I was thinking about .. the Castle clone.. the larger in stature Esc's from Turnigy with water cooling , starting at about $120

Douggie

[m4a1usr]

I just started using the Turnigy 180A water cooled ESC and have no complaints at this time. Its in my DF33 with a Neu 1521. All I can say at this point is its not thermaling, doesnt need a PiStix adapter and appears adequate for my current setup. I have not wired in my eagletree so I cant give you any numbers yet. Quality, appearence, workmanship is just as good as any of the chi ESC. Mine has the 30v caps.

John

[RPC1]

I got the 120 amp one here.
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8946&Product_Name=Turnigy_Marine_120A_Brushless_Boat_ES C

[ypat70]

Interesting to hear how the 180a, does....some numbers would be great! also are you running on 4s, or 6s? send some pics of it in your hull as well for reference in terms of size....my rigger is pretty tight as it is.

I believe this is the esc, you were talking about Douggie correct.? I think it would be adequate..but it seems very bulky...maybe that is just the view that they give on hobbycity. not sure.

I am intersted in this one as well as the turnigy "marine 120a" esc. for 70$.

Keep the data and info coming.

[Bustitup]

Interesting to hear how the 180a, does....some numbers would be great! also are you running on 4s, or 6s? send some pics of it in your hull as well for reference in terms of size....my rigger is pretty tight as it is.

I believe this is the esc, you were talking about Douggie correct.? I think it would be adequate..but it seems very bulky...maybe that is just the view that they give on hobbycity. not sure.

I am intersted in this one as well as the turnigy "marine 120a" esc. for 70$.

Keep the data and info coming.

for $20 more than the 120amp you can have the 180amp...I just odered the 180amp today
cant wait to hear more from m4a1usr

[Allan]

http://www.suppomodel.com

[BACKEMF]

http://www.suppomodel.com

Nice Allan, Schulze clone. Yellow pop tart twinkie....

Nice big FETS and water cooled, how much????

[lutach24]

Too bad Suppo can't get the programming right on the ESCs: http://www.rumrunnerracing.com/feforums/showthread.php?t=23246. The picture of the 200A HV was taken and added to the site after I sent Suppo the MOSFETs.

[Peter Zicha]

Have 3 on order myself , curious on some input at this point also

[cyberhoops]

I tried a Turnigy 120A motor driving a Proboat (BJ26) brushless motor on 4s in my 1/10th scale hydro for a race last Saturday. I had the timing set to 3.75 degrees.

Everthing was fine getting out on to the race course, but it went dead just as we were spooling up for the start. After getting the boat back in I found the motor was running at very low RPM and very rough.

The speed control was the problem - it is almost like one of the motor wires is not working.

I am sending it back for a replacement.

[cybercrxt]

I have 2 of the 120a turnigy controllers, and got to use one of them for the first time on my VS1 with UL1 motor setup, and it worked great. Plenty of power, and stayed very cool. I know the UL1 motor is not that high of current draw, so it really doesn't push the controller, but I think using this controller on a setup of this size will give you plenty of cushion. It also runs very smoothly threw throttle transitions. Mike

[BACKEMF]

I have 2 of the 120a turnigy controllers, and got to use one of them for the first time on my VS1 with UL1 motor setup, and it worked great. Plenty of power, and stayed very cool. I know the UL1 motor is not that high of current draw, so it really doesn't push the controller, but I think using this controller on a setup of this size will give you plenty of cushion. It also runs very smoothly threw throttle transitions. Mike

Yes, very smooth. Good for a catamaran too so you can push the edge and still feel safe sort of...

[cybercrxt]

What motor are you using on your 120a? What size cat?

[VQ-1]

I been thinking about trying the 180 or 120 for some 4-6s setups. I found a better price then Hobbycity, http://www.rc-fans88.com/products.asp?classid=00460003. There's is Hobbywing identical to Turnigy looks the same, same specs just different name. rc-fans88 has lower shipping options too.

[BACKEMF]

What motor are you using on your 120a? What size cat?

Look at my Signature in Magenta, lol...

H&M 37" Maritimo, and I actually run the Turnigy 100 ampHV unit converted to boat use. Water cooled and conformal coated.

[ghostofpf1]

I been thinking about trying the 180 or 120 for some 4-6s setups. I found a better price then Hobbycity, http://www.rc-fans88.com/products.asp?classid=00460003. There's is Hobbywing identical to Turnigy looks the same, same specs just different name. rc-fans88 has lower shipping options too.

Actually with a platinum level discount the hobby king esc's are about $15 cheaper.:)
Now if hobby king would just get the 120's in stock so I can order a couple :yeah:
Steve

[brod]

I just ordered the 180 amp version for a 5S setup.
Should be able to test in few weeks when my motors arrive.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one:eek:
Brod..

[tunda]

I ran my 33 delta on a 8xl ,turnigy120 and 4s lipo turning a x448 prop and gpsd at 55.2mph i am pretty impressed with this speedo.......................

[Harusee]

I been thinking about trying the 180 or 120 for some 4-6s setups. I found a better price then Hobbycity, http://www.rc-fans88.com/products.asp?classid=00460003. There's is Hobbywing identical to Turnigy looks the same, same specs just different name. rc-fans88 has lower shipping options too.


120 amp is 85 at rc fans and 69 at hobby city. add shipping and rc fans charges more.

[VQ-1]

120 amp is 85 at rc fans and 69 at hobby city. add shipping and rc fans charges more.
Your right, RC-fans HV opto are cheaper though..

[jmscard]

I blew my Hacker Navy 99 in my 32" pip triton. Also smoked my supervee esc....

Bought a 180a turnigy for both from hobbycity for $89.95 as I buy alot of lipos from them... I ordered them with the ems quick shipping and should have them tommorow as I ordered a week ago.

Will let all know how they work and take pics of install......

[raptor347]

I ran the 180 marine this weekend in a 39 7/8" long rigger on 4S2P 4500's. running a prototype 44-65-2060 ammo motor. 6 runs total, 2x1mile test runs and 4 rounds of open hydro on the 1 mile course (8.5 laps each). ESC never got above 130F. Very smooth throttle response. 110 amp average draw and it didn't miss a beat all day. Boat was running in the high 68-70 mph by the end of the day. I'll be adding a couple more to the collection.

[brod]

Mine came yesterday,looks very well made in a nice shiny box.
Took six days to the UK.
Very thick wires,going to get some 5.5 ml connectors later.
Looks like they've sold a few on HW,when i ordered their was about 70,only a few left now.
sounding like a bargain so far at $90..
Brod..

[tylerm]

I ran the 180 marine this weekend in a 39 7/8" long rigger on 4S2P 4500's. running a prototype 44-65-2060 ammo motor. 6 runs total, 2x1mile test runs and 4 rounds of open hydro on the 1 mile course (8.5 laps each). ESC never got above 130F. Very smooth throttle response. 110 amp average draw and it didn't miss a beat all day. Boat was running in the high 68-70 mph by the end of the day. I'll be adding a couple more to the collection.

The Man! lol. What would the ammo be similar to? feigao 580? neu?

[Peter Zicha]

I ran the 180 marine this weekend in a 39 7/8" long rigger on 4S2P 4500's. running a prototype 44-65-2060 ammo motor. 6 runs total, 2x1mile test runs and 4 rounds of open hydro on the 1 mile course (8.5 laps each). ESC never got above 130F. Very smooth throttle response. 110 amp average draw and it didn't miss a beat all day. Boat was running in the high 68-70 mph by the end of the day. I'll be adding a couple more to the collection.


Thanks for the info Brian , I have 3 sitting in customs in Vancover but did see my friend Kens unit , exceptional quality for the price

[raptor347]

The Man! lol. What would the ammo be similar to? feigao 580? neu?

The ammo motor is a little smaller compared to the 580L, 10mm shorter and about 4oz lighter. The 580 has a bit more grunt. I'm going to keep running the ammo just to see how much abuse it will take. You'll get more power out of an equivelant weight Neu.

If you wanted a budget competition P power system you could do alot worse than a 580L 7T and either the Turnigy 180 or Etti 150. You can push LOTS of boat for not a ton of money.

[tylerm]

Wicked, thnaks for being so forthcoming with the info Brian.You reckon the 580 would push a .40 sprintcat?

[raptor347]

Wicked, thnaks for being so forthcoming with the info Brian.You reckon the 580 would push a .40 sprintcat?

That's the 36" hull? 4S or 6S? The motor will do it if you have the cells to back it up.

[tylerm]

Yes sir. I'm open as to 4 or 6s? I will have elites most likely, 35C ones?

[raptor347]

Yes sir. I'm open as to 4 or 6s? I will have elites most likely, 35C ones?

7T on 4S or 10T on 6S.

[encroacher]

that ESC sounds like a good one to replace your castle that smoked Tyler! :thumup:

[tylerm]

Yes sir.





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[ksm2001]

As Peter mentioned I received mine over a week ago for $89 from Hobby City along with the $8 program card, the unit looks very well built. I want to try it out in my Xzess 2 Evo running the 7xl.

Ken

[brod]

As Peter mentioned I received mine over a week ago for $89 from Hobby City along with the $8 program card, the unit looks very well built. I want to try it out in my Xzess 2 Evo running the 7xl.

Ken

Does the Hobbyking programmer work with the esc?
i heard it had issues..
Brod...

[ksm2001]

I'll try getting a chance to solder on the bullet connectors and programing it tonight, will post results.

Ken

[BACKEMF]

Should work, just use the right faceplate...

[brod]

I'll try getting a chance to solder on the bullet connectors and programing it tonight, will post results.

Ken
that would be great:thumup:
Brod..

[ypat70]

Since my original post on these esc's a while ago...much information has been given...I appreciate all of your input! Thanks again

Patrick

[ksm2001]

So I soldered on the bullet connectors and programed the esc. I set the throttle range calibration first then used the program card to set the parameters for my setup.I have to say that this is a piece of cake:lalala:, I know that hobbycity is out of stock but for 8 bucks its sweet and I'd recomend it for anyone running a turnigy esc.

Ken

[lomdel]

Ken, what is the little thingie between the ESC and programmer?

[brod]

It looks like a Ubec/sbec.

great that it is going to plan,so far..Keep us informed of usage etc,please.
Mine wont be used for a good few weeks yet,waiting for motors.:o
Brod...

[Peter Zicha]

A quick question Ken , why is the red wire disconected on the ESC and I am curious if that is a ubec/bec . I ran my unit yesterday and it has a built in bec unit , I didn't need a reciever pack.................:wave:

[ksm2001]

The thingy is a ubec, the red wire is disconected from the esc because I use the ubec to power my receiver and servo instead of through the esc unit.

Hmmm, this leads me to a question. I thought that if you run more than 3s you should disconnect the red wire from the esc and run a separate Rx battery pack or a ubec, is that true? I know the Castle esc's tell you to. I don't see it any where in the Turnigy instructions but I set it up the same way.

Ken:)

[Peter Zicha]

Hello Ken

I received all three units Yesterday and put bullets on all , I tried the units on 6 cells , but even on 2 cells ( 7.6+ ) volts the onboard ubec should still work without an external unit .

(30 minutes later)
I just tried it on 12Nimh cells or 3 cells lipo equivalent and still everything works as it should , another cool feature is once you connect up it initializes by beeping off the number of cells that you are connected to

[brod]

I couldnt wait no longer to try mine.
It ran great on 5S,probaby pullng 100 amps on a very smooth big lake tonite,did 2 packs,came back barely warm.
First pack was varying the throttle for short 30 second runs and the second pack was full for about 5mins.
Throttle range was fabulous.
Well impressed.:thumup::thumup:
Brod..

[BACKEMF]

Hmmm, this leads me to a question. I thought that if you run more than 3s you should disconnect the red wire from the esc and run a separate Rx battery pack or a ubec, is that true? I know the Castle esc's tell you to. I don't see it any where in the Turnigy instructions but I set it up the same way.

Ken:)

I believe that these unit use a Ubec onboard, good for its max voltage rating.

Similar to the BEC on Ebay's Himodel copy Sky Wing. I bought 2 100 amp units ans 2 200 amp units. Their Bec's are nice big units onboard too.

Remember I'm not 100% shure but, this is the voltage regulator spec sheet from my Sky Wing units ($35 Cdn each)

http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=41K3844&CMP=AFC-TL10000001

http://www.alldatasheet.co.kr/view.jsp?Searchword=LM2596S-5.0

[jmscard]

20949
20950
20951

Here is the New Turnigy 180 esc with a FDM nemesis 10xl Stuffed into my Supervee 27..... I am going to run on 5s lipo in her... will let all know how it goes.... anyone with any prop suggestions????

I used the base of the water tight radio box to hold the servo and keep everything as uncluttered as possible... any suggestions???

[jmscard]

Ran last night on 5s lipo with nemesis 10xl and cf45 prop...... went fantastic....forgot temp gun and radar at home but I would guess around 125 degrees at motor and esc was hardly warm, I would guess speeds around 45mph.

[DON SHUHART]

I did the same conversion for 12xl. On 6s would not stay on rough water. Ok on 4s

[RPC1]

Turnigy 120 0n 6s 5 amp lipo, 1600 kV, X642, Whiplash 20 = barely warm.

[BACKEMF]

Nice What motor brand, Neu?

[RPC1]

Medusa 3670-1600, Turnigy 5 amp 6 cell lipo.

[brod]

180amp esc.with FREE postage.
just ordered another one.
Great speedcontrollers..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Seaking-180A-Brushless-Electric-Speed-Controller-429U_W0QQitemZ160339677201QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio _Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2554fd5011&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30
Brod..

[BACKEMF]

180amp esc.with FREE postage.
just ordered another one.
Great speedcontrollers..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Seaking-180A-Brushless-Electric-Speed-Controller-429U_W0QQitemZ160339677201QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio _Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item2554fd5011&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A30
Brod..

Are they nicely finished off like the Turnigy's or are they a little more ragged?

I saw them and thanks for the link, free shipping is great. I just wonder if these are a notorious "3rd shift" batch that don't have the same quality control...
Of course a couple pieces of shrink wrap is all that looks different, everything else looks great.
Have you ran it yet?

[m4a1usr]

20949
20950
20951

Here is the New Turnigy 180 esc with a FDM nemesis 10xl Stuffed into my Supervee 27..... I am going to run on 5s lipo in her... will let all know how it goes.... anyone with any prop suggestions????

I used the base of the water tight radio box to hold the servo and keep everything as uncluttered as possible... any suggestions???


An interesting mix of parts to run in an SV27. Begin with a 440/3 and adjust according to hardware configuration. A 180 esc in a SV27 is way over kill unless you decide to go with an offshore configuration where run times exceed 5 minutes but then your going to need packs over 5000mah at 30C so you dont run them down below 30%.

John

[brod]

Are they nicely finished off like the Turnigy's or are they a little more ragged?

I saw them and thanks for the link, free shipping is great. I just wonder if these are a notorious "3rd shift" batch that don't have the same quality control...
Of course a couple pieces of shrink wrap is all that looks different, everything else looks great.
Have you ran it yet?

It hasnt arrived yet from the above seller.
I noticed the shrink wrap too on the pic.
i also noticed in the pic.that the caps look smaller too,if so i will replace with larger better quality ones.
I have a long background in valve amplifier design and build,so no problems there.
I'll let you know when it arrives.
Brod..

[jmscard]

I know its overkill....... yet why buy a 60 or 100 amp controller when I can get a 180 amp for 89.95 as I am a gold member at hobbycity...... I run alot of flightmax lipos... 25c with 5000 mah, also run some tp's..... Is it bad to run too big of a amp esc?? I am a lone boater up here in Vermont so sometimes my stuff is done without much knowledge.....oops, I will try the prop you recommended...... also you say it is interesting mix of parts, the motor came out of my fdm mean machine as I replaced it with a neu 1515 1.5y...... if you have any other recommendations don't be afraid to tell me as I need all the help I can get...LOL! Thanks again!

[m4a1usr]

I know its overkill....... yet why buy a 60 or 100 amp controller when I can get a 180 amp for 89.95 as I am a gold member at hobbycity...... I run alot of flightmax lipos... 25c with 5000 mah, also run some tp's..... Is it bad to run too big of a amp esc?? I am a lone boater up here in Vermont so sometimes my stuff is done without much knowledge.....oops, I will try the prop you recommended...... also you say it is interesting mix of parts, the motor came out of my fdm mean machine as I replaced it with a neu 1515 1.5y...... if you have any other recommendations don't be afraid to tell me as I need all the help I can get...LOL! Thanks again!

You wont get an arguement from me. I live by the "functionality" plan myself as well. My question was more oriented towards why modify an SV27 innards to use a big ESC when you could use a smaller one and still stuff it inside the stock radio box. IMHO bigger is better when dealing with speedos. I cant argue with your logic for sure.

John

[rcphreak]

i just bought one off egay also 109.00 free shipping cant beat it at that price its a no brainer as i need a new one for my ul-1 and it 89.99 + taxes and shipping . and its only a 60 amp . i just hope it workes well . ill post the pictures when i get it .

[brod]

Are they nicely finished off like the Turnigy's or are they a little more ragged?

I saw them and thanks for the link, free shipping is great. I just wonder if these are a notorious "3rd shift" batch that don't have the same quality control...
Of course a couple pieces of shrink wrap is all that looks different, everything else looks great.
Have you ran it yet?

Well the 'Hobbywing' 180 amp esc came today.
Its exactly the same as the Turnigy 180 esc,same box,same shrink wrap,same caps etc.
great speedcontroller at only $109.25 including postage!!

This will be fitted in a 29" cat with a Medusa 36x80mm 2000Kv V2 Afterburner run on 5S lipo.
Should be a fast setup..
I'll post some pics and a video when finished..

I have the 120 amp one too in a 29" mono,running great too,these escs are very easy to program,with very smooth progressive throttle.

A couple of pals run the 180 amp version(Hobbywing)succesfully.
We have found so far that these escs seem to run better with 'no lipo' cutoff set up.The default setting of 3.2V seems to cut power straight away to about 50% even on a fully charges bat.pack.
I dont use cutoff settings with my models,helis,planes,boats etc anyway,so no problem for me.I can easily tell when power is starting to wain.
Brod..

[Raydee]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Seaking-120A-Water-Cooling-Brushless-ESC-for-Boat_W0QQitemZ250451979179QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio _Control_Vehicles?hash=item3a5019ebab&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C 301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Is that the exact same controller as the Turnigy? I would like to try one in my Whiplash to replace my Hydra 120. The Turnigy 180 is just way to big to fit and the Hydra 240 I have in there now is a wiring nightmare!

[PropNut]

Ray,

Yes, same controller. I have 2 of them. Work flawlessly.

Brian Buass has been beatin on the 180 version in a 6S rigger for several months now and has ordered several more. If he can't kill em, they are very good.

All the best,

Ray

[brod]

yes again:)
Mines in a 29" mono on 4S on a 2300kv motor pulling large amps,runs cool,smooth throttle and very easy to set up.Great 6v bec.
All my boats have them now.
You cant go wrong at the price..
Brod..

[Raydee]

The 120 looks to be a little smaller than the Hydra 120 which is a plus for me..I am limited for space in my Whiplash.

[Dwyer]

I ordered a turnigy 120 marine 25 days ago because they were 15 dollars cheaper with shipping and they stil haven't gotten any in. :mad2:

[Raydee]

Did you get the EMS shipping?

[Dwyer]

Did you get the EMS shipping?

I don't know what EMS shipping is but they haven't had any to ship in over 3 weeks.

[Raydee]

Ahh, yeah if they are out of stock it can be a while. The guy from hong kong has plenty of stock but you have to choose EMS shipping when you order or it can be a long wait.

[brod]

yes again:)
Mines in a 29" mono on 4S on a 2300kv motor pulling large amps,runs cool,smooth throttle and very easy to set up.Great 6v bec.
All my boats have them now.
You cant go wrong at the price..
Brod..

Well my first Hobbywing(Turnigy) casualty last nite:doh:
We tried an even bigger prop,a X645 on a 4S pack with my Medusa 2300kv motor.
Very fast,5000 pack emptied in about 2 mins..
Motor warmish,battery warm to hot,still able to easily hold it.
Boat just died,no rudder etc.It was the Esc. bec.the 2 second beep confirmed it when hooked up again.
Stripped the shrink off when home,just a very slight burning smell.
Hooked up one of my heli Sbecs and removed the red esc wire to the RX and it works fine again.
Glad its working with the sbec,but a bit disapointed in the bec burn.
Too many amps i think for a 120Amp esc.
Would still buy another though.
This hull runs more sensible with a X442 prop.

I dont think there will ever be a totally bulletproof speedcontroller...
Brod.

[Raydee]

Well my first Hobbywing(Turnigy) casualty last nite:doh:
We tried an even bigger prop,a X645 on a 4S pack with my Medusa 2300kv motor.
Very fast,5000 pack emptied in about 2 mins..
Motor warmish,battery warm to hot,still able to easily hold it.
Boat just died,no rudder etc.It was the Esc. bec.the 2 second beep confirmed it when hooked up again.
Stripped the shrink off when home,just a very slight burning smell.
Hooked up one of my heli Sbecs and removed the red esc wire to the RX and it works fine again.
Glad its working with the sbec,but a bit disapointed in the bec burn.
Too many amps i think for a 120Amp esc.
Would still buy another though.
This hull runs more sensible with a X442 prop.

I dont think there will ever be a totally bulletproof speedcontroller...
Brod.

That is what I wanted to hear. Some guys were making these controllers out to be indestructable running large amp setup's with Zero problems. I am sure there are others out there that have burned these up too but just don't want to admit it ;)
For the money I am going to try one of the 120's in my lower anp boat and a 180 in my higher amp boat and see how they hold up.

[brod]

Well my first Hobbywing(Turnigy) casualty last nite:doh:
We tried an even bigger prop,a X645 on a 4S pack with my Medusa 2300kv motor.
Very fast,5000 pack emptied in about 2 mins..
Motor warmish,battery warm to hot,still able to easily hold it.
Boat just died,no rudder etc.It was the Esc. bec.the 2 second beep confirmed it when hooked up again.
Stripped the shrink off when home,just a very slight burning smell.
Hooked up one of my heli Sbecs and removed the red esc wire to the RX and it works fine again.
Glad its working with the sbec,but a bit disapointed in the bec burn.
Too many amps i think for a 120Amp esc.
Would still buy another though.
This hull runs more sensible with a X442 prop.

I dont think there will ever be a totally bulletproof speedcontroller...
Brod.

Took it tonite with the heli SBec wired up.
Lasted no more than about 2 mins at a steady pace with a smaller X442 prop.
Burnt out the rest of the speedcontroller and to boot,took out a lipo pack too.
It must have gone short circuit and then burnt the tabs on the battery.
I should have really binned it when the bec went,but you know how it is,until you try it you just dont know.
I;ll stick to the 180amp version in future.
Luckily it was only a Zippy lipo.Good job not an expensive one.:eek:

bad nite all round,my high powered gas boat hit something under water and ripped the prop and rudder to bits.2 other guys hit the same thing too.
We run in a real rough neighbourhood were kids threw prams and stuff into the lake.
never mind fix and try again:thumup:
Brod..

[Bustitup]

A couple of pals run the 180 amp version(Hobbywing)succesfully.
We have found so far that these escs seem to run better with 'no lipo' cutoff set up.The default setting of 3.2V seems to cut power straight away to about 50% even on a fully charges bat.pack.
I dont use cutoff settings with my models,helis,planes,boats etc anyway,so no problem for me.I can easily tell when power is starting to wain.
Brod..


I ran my 180 and it only gives me about 50% power....are you saying this is a problem with all of them?....I wont run my lipos without a cutoff
if this is the case i;m returning mine

[BACKEMF]

I ran my 180 and it only gives me about 50% power....are you saying this is a problem with all of them?....I wont run my lipos without a cutoff
if this is the case i;m returning mine

I'll buy it. I rarely setup the cutoff because I've ran into the same thing. That is on all of my Chinese controllers (all i use).

My High models I just plug and play.

It pays to know your amp draw!!!

BTW...Except for the new cells from Turnigy all my Enerland packs are 3 years old now.

[brod]

I ran my 180 and it only gives me about 50% power....are you saying this is a problem with all of them?....I wont run my lipos without a cutoff
if this is the case i;m returning mine

Well my 3 Turnigy escs all needed 'no cuttoff' setting,plus 2 pals ones were the same and now yours,so its looking that way.
Your choice not to use it,i've seen add on units that do a similar cutoff job,for each individual cells too,just cant recall the make and model.
Brod..

[Peter Zicha]

you can still use the 3.0v cutoff , on a bench test it worked well and cut the motor to half power well within the lipo's safety limit . on a 50 amp load it cut off a 5000mah lipo pack at about the 4000mah mark . I would have to try it again to verify it

[Jeff Wohlt]

Peter, are you saying it cut off with 4000 mah still left or after it went thru 4000 mah? I would assume the latter.

Very few problems with these controllers. I do not think anyone ever said they are fail proof.

Look at some other MAJOR makers and look at the dead rate and 3 times the money. Still a great deal for us that run sensible set ups.

Still looks like a super ESC for all but the extreme set ups...and then you should spend the $400 but for the rest of us this one is golden.

[Peter Zicha]

Hello Jeff

at around the 50 amp draw mark It cut off using 4000 mah already , the higher the amp draw the earlier it will cut off ( at least mine did ) . these esc's are a hell of a deal

[Bustitup]

when I said its only giving me 50% power I mean this

with two fully charged flightpower 2s lipos in series (4s) and a 2200kv castle neu motor my mean machine would only run 23mph...soon as I switched out the esc she ran 43mph

whats the fix if any?

[Bustitup]

I sent u an email........do u want the 180 befor I send it back?





I'll buy it. I rarely setup the cutoff because I've ran into the same thing. That is on all of my Chinese controllers (all i use).

My High models I just plug and play.

It pays to know your amp draw!!!

BTW...Except for the new cells from Turnigy all my Enerland packs are 3 years old now.

[BACKEMF]

I sent u an email........do u want the 180 befor I send it back?

First did you try the Auto lipo detect setting? and then use the lowest cutoff voltage?

Anyway, I didn't get your email, maybe my ISP filtered it thinking it was spam.


I'll send you a PM

[Bustitup]

First did you try the Auto lipo detect setting? and then use the lowest cutoff voltage?

Anyway, I didn't get your email, maybe my ISP filtered it thinking it was spam.


I'll send you a PM


no I have been disgusted with this new esc and maybe will try that...it just seems you should be able to set the lipo cutoff to 3.2 per cell and should work like all normal esc's

I really need a HV 200amp

[Raydee]

I just want to confirm that the Turnigy 120 and 180 DON'T need a pistix to work on a pistol grip radio before I buy a couple to try.

[Peter Zicha]

They don't

[m4a1usr]

They don't

Nope. Dont need any adapter to work with my Futaba 3PM/R133f FM system. Just make sure you have the end points open as much as possible before plugging the ESC in. Finaly the ESC makers have decided there are more pistol grip users then stick types. If you think otherwise look how many car/truck/buggy folks, not to mention us lowly boaters, there are.

John

[ozzie-crawl]

i tried my new 120amp one today got 90 seconds out of it
setup is 33" df 9xl 4s modded 447/3
usally run a himodel 200a but thought i would give one a try
running the himodel with no water cooling after 2 min run esc is only 43deg (109f)
going back to the himodel as i could have nearly brought 2 for the price of one of these

[brod]

Did it burn or just cut out Oz?
my 120 burnt.i think i overpropped.maybe its the 180's which are the good ones?
Going to try my 180 later on 6S in my 33" mono.
seems to be lots of escs burning up lately,all makes:confused:
Brod..

[Raydee]

i tried my new 120amp one today got 90 seconds out of it
setup is 33" df 9xl 4s modded 447/3
usally run a himodel 200a but thought i would give one a try
running the himodel with no water cooling after 2 min run esc is only 43deg (109f)
going back to the himodel as i could have nearly brought 2 for the price of one of these

Have you ever had a Eagle Tree on that setup to see how many amps it is pulling? I would imagine a 33" mono and a 447/3 prop must be real close to 120 amps if not over.

[ozzie-crawl]

no have data logged my other boats but not this one. going of battry draw my average amps are around 80, so yes would have been pushing its limits, i should have put this in my first post, not saying there a crap esc, i knew full well when i put it in that it would be hit and miss. one stupid thing i did was not disconect the bec, i couldnt find anything saying to disable it over a given voltage
all my boats but one run a ubec they other is a df 25 with a bjack esc never had trouble with the bec. the boat just died when i disconected the bec it came to life for about 3 sec then puffed out
when i set mine up on the program box it was only plugged in for about 1 1/2 min but i noticed the bottom of the esc was rather hot has anyone else noticed this

[BACKEMF]

Have you ever had a Eagle Tree on that setup to see how many amps it is pulling? I would imagine a 33" mono and a 447/3 prop must be real close to 120 amps if not over.

It's not so bad if you detongue it and back cut it alot. I use one and 646 x3blade done the same way. I use HiModel 200amp Esc's with Etti coolers and they run great!

[ozzie-crawl]

yes thats what i did to my 447/3 . just worked it to suit what i wanted

[drwayne1966]

The turnigy/seaking 180 marine does not successfully quantify cell count on connect.
The flash of connect more often than not registers a cell count of actual+1.
This is tied up with high yield caps onboard that resist initial charge .. making a bell curve voltage throughout the controller circuit as they amass charge

so.. at 3.2V cutoff... for a 4s ( just for eg ) 4x4.2=16.8 charged...
When the 4s registers as 5.. 5x3.2(cutoff)=16v
makes for one very short run before the esc assumes the cells are flat and offers you less than 1/3 max throttle.... limp home mode
Ive noted that some packs are automatically declared flat' by the esc for cell count.

esc needs to use its own bec to feed Rx.. uses this to identify signal loss.. one of its cute features for safety.

Only solution is to manually set the cell count.

No, not a flawless esc.. but worth a try noting it's cell count issues


Wayne

[BACKEMF]

Thanks Wayne, good info. I had a feeling...

[BACKEMF]

I just bought a couple. They are Version 2. Not shure of the difference but, they are on the way.
Hi-model just stocked them in last Friday and they are all B/Ordered now. I went on Ebay and bargained a decent price with free shipping.
Hi-model did not have the proper programmer in stock. That is, if it is different from the one used on Ver.1 ???? They called it a Pro Card???

I'll try to keep you posted.

[m4a1usr]

Good stuff Ray. Keep us posted as the 180 is a decent speedo. Hard to argue with for the price too. I bet in a couple years the ratings and quality of parts are going to be sensational. Now I remember why Andy decided not to venture down that road.

John

[BACKEMF]

Hobby City pulled the whole line of Turnigy Marine Esc's except for the 180 and 35A...

Maybe gearing up for Ver.2??? Weird...

Hi-Models web site had them in stock for 3 days and some Ver.2 program box is out now too....??? confusing somewhat...

[Raydee]

After the pond incedents tonight it looks like the Seaking/Turnigy controllers are going to be ordered real soon. I am really losing faith in Castle controllers!

[BACKEMF]

I stopped with Castle long ago.


Here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Hobbywing-Seaking-180A-360A-Brushless-ESC-Card-C15U_W0QQitemZ160349338708QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio _Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item255590bc54&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[Raydee]

They are claiming that the Built in BEC can even handle 6s lipo. I am curious how many guys are running these on 4s with the built in BEC?

[Raydee]

Three Seaking 180 amp ESC with a program card for $350=DEF no-brainer. If these hold up like the claims well I am going to be a happy camper in about 7 days when they come in ;)

[Raydee]

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/Raydee32/Stuff/DSC_0031.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll35/Raydee32/Stuff/DSC_0030.jpg

Reason Why I am changing brands. One Castle was a plug and burn, the other burned after three laps. The Etti was in a 60-70 amp max draw that decided to grenade as well. Bad day at the pond for sure.

[BACKEMF]

SmokeeDee...

At least you have a cool heat sink left from the Etti. What size is it?

[Raydee]

HAHAHAHA,
None of those three controllers are mine, I have been very lucky with mine the last two seasons (crosses fingers).

The Etti WAS a 150opto.

[cacofonix]

hi all

i read that some of you claim about CC esc's, i worried a bit because i use 3 hydra 120 without problem.
to compare, i burn't 2 turnigy 120A and BEC of my 180A is out .

for futur projects i need 2 more Esc's. my idea was to order 2 CC, but now ...................... i doubt.

herve

[Allan]

At least you have a cool heat sink left from the Etti. What size is it? Thats a 150 - you can tell by the caps. I have sold a lot of these and had one back ... and that was user error as it was BEC and he exceeded the voltages. Please send the esc back to Dee - or send it to me and I will pass it on. ETTI take blow ups very very seriously and they are few and far between. I have had a number returned but only one that could be attributed to component failiure (Maybe - Etti replaced it ).

There are a couple of points to be aware of though...

1. We know from data capture - that the peak currents are twice the normal run current and that these occur at start up, in turns and on jumps from the water ( the return does it) Start up can be particularly hard and extended and cause heat build up that cannot be got rid of later.

2. Using high amps or low impedance motors needs the capacitor bank added - if not the caps will blow ( top bulges) and then the ESC will burn.

3. Poor connectors cause heat build up which will run down the wires and into the controller. The wires on the etti are desoldered.. why? We are now using 6mm connectors as minimum - but some of those are not that great ( soft wipe so poor contact.

[Raydee]

hi all

i read that some of you claim about CC esc's, i worried a bit because i use 3 hydra 120 without problem.
to compare, i burn't 2 turnigy 120A and BEC of my 180A is out .

for futur projects i need 2 more Esc's. my idea was to order 2 CC, but now ...................... i doubt.

herve

Herve, I am interested to hear what setup you were running when you burnt your two Turnigy controllers and the Bec on your 180a? So far the only reports I have read of burning the turnigy controllers have been with guys running setups that either exceeded the amp rating of the controller or were just completely in left field ( 6s with a 2200 kv motor and a large three blade prop).

[cacofonix]

hi

for 180A bec, it's my fault.
i have the prog box and i don't well read notice.
so 2 or 3 times i setup the esc with a receiver pack on the prog box .... seems that the bec don't like, now it deliver only 3 volts ....

about 120A, first one was in a mini moogly hull : turnigy B3650 KV 3200 / 3S

second in a special hull : COLIBRI (http://www.offshore-rc.com/forum/uploads/post-3-1244108045.jpg)
1.25 m long / 24cm width.

actual setup is : 2 esc hydra 120 / 2 feigao 10XL / 2 lipo pack 5S 5000

but i start with 2 Turnigy 120A / 2 motor from hobby city KD36 74 9XL

in both case motor burnt also, so i don't know if motor burnt first and then esc or opposite .....

anyway now i have hydra 120 in all hull (except 180A) and it work fine.


herve

[Jeff Wohlt]

I'm with Allan. I also had a couple go but we will find out why..not me but my custoemrs. One was a BEC unit and one was a brand new 150 with extra caps and running and easy set up in a hydro...2 minutes and poof.

All others I have sold not a word from and I know they are still running.

ETTI makes it right as they have total confidence in their products.

[marko500]

Allan, if you could give me an address for Dee ( or whoever I should send it to) I will send the esc back. I'm not so much angry this happened but would like to know why so maybe I can avoid this in the future. I have been running the same setup all season (at least 25 or so times) and the esc has never been over 100 degrees or so. Everything in the boat has always run cool, as Raydee has stated its a pretty mild setup. Thanks for your help. Mark

[Jeff Wohlt]

If you buy it directly from Dee at Etti then I guess he takes care of you. As a dealer....all my customers send it to me to send back to him for inspection and repair.

So if you got it from a dealer then it must go back to them.

[BACKEMF]

Dee has great customer service. Although the Etti's are kinda pricey.

Odd how there is a Ver.2 for Turnigy marine ESC's (HobbyWing) and all stock at Hi-model disappeared 3 days after it arrived, all models.

Hobby City Still lists the 180 and 35 but, nothing else???? Creepy considering I just got 2 Ver.2's from Ebay. Hope they hold out...

OTOH, my $50 200amp Himodel + $20 Etti cooler are just chiming along in my Pmono 1521 1.5D +646 x3b, Turnigy 25C 5000 Lipos 4S2P. Up to 450 3 blade, Holy Snikees!!!

[cybercrxt]

There is apparently a recall on the turnigy/ seaking ESC's. Offshore electrics has a thread about the problems. Might want to check into it before using your new ESC's. I know I am trying to send mine back right now. As you read threw the thread, it affects more than just the 120a controller.Mike

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?t=9508

[BACKEMF]

My Ebay seller has sent me this note after I asked about the recall:

Hi Ray,

Thank you for your enquires. We would like to declare that the re-call is done by Hobbywing, and we were just been notified. To express our sinceress, this item can be refunded by request in brand new condition. Thank you for your kind attention.

Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.

Have a nice day!

Thanks & Regards,
plus2


Thats nice to hear. How much does it cost to send it back to Hong Kong???

[Allan]

Allan, if you could give me an address for Dee ( or whoever I should send it to) I will send the esc back. I'm not so much angry this happened but would like to know why so maybe I can avoid this in the future. I have been running the same setup all season (at least 25 or so times) and the esc has never been over 100 degrees or so. Everything in the boat has always run cool, as Raydee has stated its a pretty mild setup. Thanks for your help. Mark Either PM me - or contact Dee direct from the Etti website (http://www.etti.com.hk)