Fastelectrics.com workshop clean out

[Andrewg]

Twaits Cyclone 6-8 cell rigger – w/fuller Hughey hardware Lightning D4 10/3 and Hitec servo $110

Novak Charger Millenium $45

Warehouse Hobbies Enforcer Tunnel hull - $65

New Lightning 628 Mono – drilled for turn fin - $68

Academy tunnel hull complete $65

[FrankW]

Pictures on the Tunnel Hull?

-Frank

[Larry Benson]

Andrew, I'm interested in the Lighting 628 mono. any more details?

[DualBarracuda]

could you trade that Millenium charger for a wavemaster and some cash? its stock, just needs your touch ;)

i might be abel to buy it though....i got frist dibs, just need to talk it over with my dad when he gets home from work k?~alex

[DualBarracuda]

whats the diffrence between the Millenium and the Pro?

Novacks site dosn't list the regular version so i can't check what it has. thanks~Dualbarracuda

PS where are you located? your info on the side of your post says your in AUS, i always though you were in the USA. well if your in the US its ok if not some one else can have it :/

[FrankW]

I would still like to see some pics of the tunnel hull. I guess Andrew's not answering this thread... I'll email him soon then.

-Frank

[Andrewg]

Away from home overnight - so cant post pics will do so shortly - tonight 9pmish pacific time

[Andrewg]

Here are pics of Warehouse Hobbies Enforcer Tunnel

[Andrewg]

Twaits rigger

[Andrewg]

Andy Brown rigger

[Andrewg]

The guys listed are still available

[Sorcerer 001]

Andrew - I think I'll take the mono. It's brand new? Does it have the motor mount and stuff? I don't care either way, but it would be cool if it were there.

[SORCERER002]

Whadaya think?

[Avenger]

what ever is left you should donate to the auction!

[Andrewg]

Sorcerer001

the hull is brand new

I will thow in a turn fin and bracket for $10 it is drilled for it

Andrew

[SORCERER002]

So, how much to ship around the earth? And do you take PayPal?

- Brendon

[Andrewg]

Shipping is $7 for anywhere around the earth

[SORCERER002]

Andrew - I'm sorry, I'm going to have to pass on the 628. I called around to a couple of the popular US FE companies looking for hardware, and was talked out of running a 6 cell boat. I was told I'd have no chance of competing unless I had a huge budget. This came strraight from the mouths of seasoned pros. It's really too bad, you'd think that a lower cell count boat would be cheaper to run. Looks like I'm sticking with LSH and LSO.

[Andrewg]

No problems

Altho I am a bit surprised at their pessimism.

ALso this hull is very good and it comes with the turn fin

With a Lighting neo and a controller - which you have, Original Fullers or Hughey hardware this hull will be a front runner and require very little maintenance.

Of the five major races this year brushed Neo motors won or placed second in four rounds. The Neo still holds the N2 mono oval record. And set fast time in O mono at the 2002 Nationals. Also at the nationals a P94 powered mono placed 3rd

The latest gear is often fashionable rather than more effective.

A fast race boat is a well sorted hull with speed and handling and reliability.

The real secret to speed is setup setup and setup and driving a tight smooth course.

[Steve Vasdekis]

Andrew, make me a deal on the 628 with a stuffing tube and steering servo installed.

[Sorcerer 001]

It has nothing to do with the quality of the boat - I'm sure in the right hands it's as competetive as any other hull. And this is a great deal, to boot. I've been wanting to buy something from FastElectrics for a while, so I was disappointed when I was told that there was no way I'd be able to play with the guys that currently run these boats in the Seattle area. I'll go out on a limb here and say that it has far less to do with driving skill than it has to do with the amount of money some guys are able to invest in to a boat (since this is what I was told). I'm not worried about being outdriven for long.

[Drobie]

Originally posted by SORCERER002
I called around to a couple of the popular US FE companies looking for hardware, and was talked out of running a 6 cell boat. I was told I'd have no chance of competing unless I had a huge budget.

I don't get it. If you are running against other 6 cell boats, is what they're essentially saying is that you have to go brushless to compete? Too bad, but there's an easy answer.

Long live spec classes!!! MN runs a 6 cell class that specs a 19T Chameleon. Because of our close proximity, we're jumping on their bandwagon.

Sorcerer, you could buy Andrew's hull, setup to run with us, and use the cost savings for airfare to come play with us a couple times a year in WI and MN.

Round trip Seattle to Minneapolis right now is $256. LMOA

[Sorcerer 001]

Doug - I plan to travel a bit to races starting this next spring. I'll probably not venture out of LSH and LSO though, so hopefully there'll be plenty of people to run with.

[Dan Chase]

Sorcerer, next season we will be running a spec 6 cell mono class with Chameleon as well. Were only around $100 round trip! :-)

If you have a LM and controller to handle it, you should be good with some decent cells. Just remember, the Seattle guys have been doing it for quite a while, I think you would be more likely to get blown off because off setup and driving skills.

Just my $0.02

[Andrewg]

Dick Crowe holds the N2 mono record is in your area and runs a Lightning Neo. Its a cheap setup - talk to Dick he will tell you the real trick is largely in two things you cant buy setup and driving

[Sorcerer 001]

Do the LM motors require rebuilding often, like car motors? Are the brushes readily available here in the states? And can I turn the comm on my Trinity lathe? Sorry for all the questions, but you've peaked my interest once again. There's a nasty rumor that Dick may come down to Portland to play sometime in the not-too-distant future, so I could probably pick up some setup tips from him then.
I hope you didn't take offense to what I've said. I'm just concerned that I wouldn't be able to afford to run the class.

- Brendon

[Dan Chase]

Sorcerer, I think you will be very happy with the wear on the LM .05. They are nothing like an equal turn mod .05 maintenance wise, and the performance is outstanding! I think It was at least 2 races if not 3 before I changed the brushes, and even longer before I had to cut the Comm. This also included testing. Yes, you can cut the comm with your Trinity lathe.

They make a great motor with an 11 or 12 turn arm for both 6 & 8 cell mono. In fact, it will blow you away!

In fact that was the first thing I was looking for, I would like to have one more!

[SORCERER002]

One last question - How much run time should I expect running 2400's? (Running a competetive 6 cell setup).

[Dan Chase]

If you set up for NAMBA Oval racing, try and prop for about 2 minutes. You LM can swing a much bigger prop then the standard .05's, prop down a bit for sport running. I would probably go with a RC-Hydros SC3 LP controller, but you might get away with a SC3 Lite, ask Andy.

[Andrewg]

For 6 cell oval racing a x438 is good on a 12/3.

For sport try a X536 same pitch less blade area and they seem very effective and they have a 3/16" shaft hole

Dyno tests suggests that in a sport application the NEO 540's performance is not at its peak till after 10 packs.

[Dunk]

What about N-1 mono? Six cells and a ROAR stock motor.

I race in both the fast electric clubs in Seattle and it's probably the most competitive class we have. In fact the new guys are the ones that are taking home the gold. Driving and learning to tweak your boat and motor are what makes the difference.

If you decide you want to step up to N-2, a Motor and some adjustments are all it takes.

[Dick Crowe]

Originally posted by Andrewg
Dick Crowe holds the N2 mono record is in your area and runs a Lightning Neo. Its a cheap setup - talk to Dick he will tell you the real trick is largely in two things you cant buy setup and driving

The LM Neo has served me well. I get about 12 runs then cut the com and replace the brushes. Oftern out of guilt, not because it needs it!

I run the same 12/3 in both 6 and 8 cells. For 6 cells I use the x438, for 8 I use the Y536.

Brandon, so the pros have been telling you not to waste you time in non spec classes. If you do want to make the move into mod classes, keep your eyes peeled in the swap etc. There are a lot of good deals out there and brushless motors don't go bad, not that I know of anyway. I love not having to buy a motor for my 1/16th scale every year! Keep it fun!

See ya,
Dick